Apr-Jun 2009 Quarterly Earnings Reports

[webshark]

its that time of the year again! all 3 manufacturers have released their quarterly reports now, so lets see the damage!

Sony:

i cant seem to find the actual report yet, but here is a very indepth article from bloomberg:

Sony Posts Loss as Bravia TV, PlayStation Sales Slump (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

"Sony sold 1.1 million PlayStation 3 consoles and 1.3 million PlayStation Portable machines in the quarter, down 31 percent and 65 percent respectively from a year earlier."

"The Networked Products unit which includes Sony’s PlayStation game machines, Vaio computers and Walkman media players, posted a 39.7 billion yen loss, compared with profit of 4.6 billion yen a year earlier, because of lower software sales and the stronger yen"

Microsoft:

Microsoft Reports Fourth-Quarter Results

"We shipped 1.2 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2009, compared with 1.3 million Xbox 360 consoles during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2008."

"We shipped 11.2 million Xbox 360 consoles during fiscal year 2009, compared with 8.7 million Xbox 360 consoles during fiscal year 2008."

Nintendo:

Nintendo Profit Drops; Wii Sales Fall for First Time (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

"Nintendo sold 2.23 million Wii consoles in the April-June quarter, less than half its sales of 5.17 million a year earlier, because fewer “blockbuster” software titles were released, the company said."

"The company maintained its forecast to sell 26 million Wii consoles during the year ending March 2010, almost the same level as the previous year"

"The gamemaker sold 5.97 million handheld DS players during the quarter, compared with 6.94 million a year ago. DS sales will probably fall 3.8 percent to 30 million units in the year ending in March 2010, Nintendo said, reiterating its previous forecast."

in conclusion:

quarterly sales (in millions)

          2008    2009     loss 
NDS       5.97    6.94     14.0%
wii       2.23    5.97     62.7%
PSP       1.3     3.7      65.0%
360       1.2     1.3       7.7%
PS3       1.1     1.6      31.0%

PS2(lol)  1.6     1.51      5.9% INCREASE!

[boffo]

For as doomed and expensive as the PS3 is, it looks like it still outsold or at least sold dead even with the 360 during the quarter.

[webshark]

Originally Posted by boffo

For as doomed and expensive as the PS3 is, it looks like it still outsold or at least sold dead even with the 360 during the quarter.

total LTD sales:

wii - 52.6m
360 - 31.5m
ps3 - 24.01m


that puts the ps3 behind the 360 by 7.5m. for reference, the 360 was at 6.0m Sept 2006 just before the ps3 launched.

[PirateThom]

Yeah, but the 360 is the cheapest console on the market and it's still just beating the PS3 on a quarterly basis?

[E6600]

The Playstation is a powerful brand name (XBox is a stupid brand names), and the PS3 is a premium product. A lot of people buy the PS3 because it can be used as a Blu-ray player, or clustered to do scientific computations, significantly cheaper than any Cell blade in the market. It is a bargain if what it delivers matter to you, so it is great for casuals who want Blu-ray, games and online, but to hardcore gamers it doesn't make much sense. It also lacks a wide array of games favored by hardcores in significant amount like JRPGs and Shmups. Plus, at least the people I know are less of Sony haters than Microsoft haters.

While I recognize the value of the PS3, I'm only interested in its gaming part, and at that part it partially fails big time in my opinion because it lacks games of interest to many in significant amounts.

[rounds1]

I don't think even MS would have claimed to be beating the PS3 still before this gen began. We're talking about a console that was outsold by more than 6 times in the previous generation, and now it has a black mark because it's only "barely" ahead? LOL

How the stories shift and move over time! Pirate - you were certain the PS3 would be beating the 360 by "mid 2009" (if I remember correctly) and now you're bashing the 360 for barely beating it per quarter? Just eat the crow already - nobody thought this is where we'd be at this point, regardless of price! Everyone who was sure the PS3 would be winning outright were wrong and it's time to fess up already.

Originally Posted by boffo

For as doomed and expensive as the PS3 is, it looks like it still outsold or at least sold dead even with the 360 during the quarter.

I think you're confusing last year's numbers - they were close, but the PS3 is down by 100k clearly...there's no "it looks like it outsold" in sharky's post.

[boffo]

Originally Posted by webshark

that puts the ps3 behind the 360 by 7.5m. for reference, the 360 was at 6.0m Sept 2006 just before the ps3 launched.

Just shows how past gen expectations have created double standards. A console selling for as much as half the price has only sold 30,000-40,000 more consoles per month since both have been on the market and it gets called a huge success. Meanwhile the other console gets considered as a massive failure that could be discontinued at any time. If it wasn't for the huge shadow cast by the PS2 I doubt there'd be any concern about what Sony needs to do to improve the PS3 sales numbers.

[boffo]

Originally Posted by rounds1

I think you're confusing last year's numbers - they were close, but the PS3 is down by 100k clearly...there's no "it looks like it outsold" in sharky's post.

Sony sold 1.1 million PlayStation 3 consoles

We shipped 1.2 million Xbox 360 consoles

It's the good ol' sold vs. shipped debate that one company or another always seems to like to keep going.

[rounds1]

Originally Posted by boffo

Just shows how past gen expectations have created double standards. A console selling for as much as half the price has only sold 30,000-40,000 more consoles per month since both have been on the market and it gets called a huge success. Meanwhile the other console gets considered as a massive failure that could be discontinued at any time. If it wasn't for the huge shadow cast by the PS2 I doubt there'd be any concern about what Sony needs to do to improve the PS3 sales numbers.

Would you judge yourself based on how well you know you could do something or on how well someone else is doing it? Sony lost nearly 100m per month this quarter - that's no good no matter how you want to look at it.

Originally Posted by boffo

It's the good ol' sold vs. shipped debate that one company or another always seems to like to keep going.

I was just messing with you, but I think everyone assumes whether they say shipped or sold, it's always shipped. Shipped and Sold for Sony and MS are the same thing - because they both indicate a supplier has ordered X number of consoles. Sony wouldn't report the number of consoles bought by consumers because that would be a lower number. And, besides, bought by a supplier is the same to them as a customer...in the short term.

[webshark]

Originally Posted by boffo

It's the good ol' sold vs. shipped debate that one company or another always seems to like to keep going.

as rounds kind of said, those terms are the same. they both refer to consoles that have been bought by retailers and have been subsequently shipped to them. this whole sold/shipped business started because, for the longest time, sony was reporting 'consoles manufactured' in their reports, which is a pretty worthless number. they began reporting the same numbers as everyone else in late 2006 or early 2007 iirc.