There is a reason I gave Twilight Princess an 8.8

[revo_360]

Originally Posted by Pokchu

Why is he lame? For not giving it a 9.0? He didn't say the game was bad. In case you didn't realize, the 88th percentile is a very good score in well, just about everything. He's not dissing the game, but he's not jacking off to it furiously like everyone else.

Seriously, sit down, and quit caring so much about one person says. I wish people would stop caring so much about what celebrities or internet celebrities have to say. Sure, they have opinions, but you don't have to blow them out of proportion.

no, he's just crappy reviewer in my opinion. Not because of LoZ: TP score.

Originally Posted by Aeron

different controlls, less movemnt (for people like you)

hahaha this is what ive been saying

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I agree with Jeffs review:nothing new in gameplay,sound from speaker is poor.

[man on the moon]

TP is amazing! AMAZING!

I give it 9.5

I don't remember innovation being a criteria in an objective video game analysis. Oh wait, thats right, it ISN'T, its a subjective one you can apply to all the areas of analysis. But thats not your job as an objective video game journalist to give your opinion over how the game actually plays. The questions that should've been answered were how did the game play using the Wii's new controls, intuitive? experience enhancing? superb? Not, oh Zelda controls aren't anything new, roll around, collect item A to go to room B, get boss key, beat up boss, end dungeon. Even in that regard, TP does offer some new mechanics in the Zelda line of gameplay without shattering tradition. Your second point on sound... is more or less agreeable, yes it is disappointing to see the absence of detail in regards to what "next-gen" sound and sound effects. However, I must say as far as the ingame sounds go, Nintendo has really done the best possible soundtrack based on MIDI sound. Which deserves some merit. Dolby Pro Logic II adds on to that as well. If I may, I want to argue that GameSpot has given numerous games that were not particularly innovative in their genres extremely high scores. I know these are different journalists with different biases and preferences of gameplay, innovation, graphics, etc. however, comparatively you should all have one standard on which to evaluate titles.

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Nintendo made MIDI sound in TP,becouse orhcester sound need more space on disk and GC version couldnot handle that much of info.We know that Nintendo wanted to make those two versions actualy the same,so there is MIDI sound becouse of GC 1.5G disks.

Hell, I thought you were too lenient on it. But at least you weren't like the dumbasses over at IGN who while having almost all of the complaints and same scores in the categories as you, still decided to give it a 9.5. How they pull numbers out of their ass will never cease to amaze me. Although they gave Metal Gear Solid: PO a 9.0, so I can't hate them that much.

Originally Posted by iRock70x7

Yeah, I never over reacted, but I honestly consider the score way too low for such petty arguments. The voice acting was more his personal opinion, which should stay out of reviews. Reviews are supposed to remain unbiased. I, frankly, wouldn't want voice acting in my Zelda. Hell, voice acting is usually cheesy and underplayed anyway. Zelda is a fantasy game. It pulls you into the story and makes you use your imagination. It's like a book. I'd rather use my own brain to imagine what the characters sound like, not the game publisher thinks they should sound like. It makes me feel that much more in tune with the game.

The Wiimote speaker should have been a hardware reference to the Wii, not to a game. Personally, I really liked the controls. They felt natural. I think people, including Jeff, are confusing "tacked on" with minimal seeing as the Wii controls really are minimal. A little swinging, aiming, and tossing and that's about it. What it does do feels fine. Not at all clunky or out of hand. Also, people are forgetting this is a Gamecube port.

His argument about it feeling like any other Zelda was absurd. Sure, there are elements that tie this game into the others, but that hardly makes it just like any other. From what I've played so far, this game is completely original. Besides, it's Zelda. You can't fix what ain't broken.

I wouldn't have a problem with the review if he actually had good reasoning to back it up. All in all, it is just one site. Majority rules anyway. :P

Yeah, I should have posted that here anyway.

Originally Posted by BladeofTheImmortal

Hell, I thought you were too lenient on it. But at least you weren't like the dumbasses over at IGN who while having almost all of the complaints and same scores in the categories as you, still decided to give it a 9.5. How they pull numbers out of their ass will never cease to amaze me. Although they gave Metal Gear Solid: PO a 9.0, so I can't hate them that much.

That's probably because half the complaints were no reason to even lower the score all that much. Voice acting is a personal opinion and the speaker should have pertained to the Wii hardware, not the game itself. I disagree with his statement on the controls, but I can see his point with that.

Opps, didn't see that we had a double post rule. Sorry.

Originally Posted by iRock70x7

Yeah, I should have posted that here anyway.


That's probably because half the complaints were no reason to even lower the score all that much. Voice acting is a personal opinion and the speaker should have pertained to the Wii hardware, not the game itself. I disagree with his statement on the controls, but I can see his point with that.

I agree with this. The review had it's explanations but is very subjective. Link does the same old thing because this is a Zelda game. You want Link to barrel roll or something? Controls should be rated on how different it is to the standard controls and if it's better or worse. Also, you can voice act it if you want. Link is only supposed to have sounds (like grunts and AH!), not a voice. That was a decision Nintendo has made with Link since OoT and I agree with it. This is not a reason to lower a review score. It's a personal preference. If you're going to lower a score for a game, then lower it on objective cons and not your preference. Not that it matters since this has probably been discussed to death (and I'm not reading 15 pages). Just my three cents.